
Back when I was
Anyway, in the “cults” class, the teacher was in the practice of referring to the heretic churches’ beliefs about God as “their God,” and beliefs about Jesus as “their Jesus.” So there was a Mormon God, a Jehovah’s Witness God, a Christian Science God, a Unitarian God, and so forth. Using this kind of language gave you the idea each of these groups had their very own god. Who certainly wasn’t our God, the L
Oh, the teachers totally meant to give us that idea. Because that’s how they believed. They didn’t simply believe these heretics were wrong about God: They believed these heretics were worshiping a whole other god. A devil who was pretending to be God, who borrowed
Where’d they come up with this idea? They loosely got it from the bible.
1 Corinthians 10.19-20 KWL - 19 Then what am I implying?—that idol-sacrifice is real, or that idols are real? No.
- 20 Instead that they sacrifice to lesser gods. They don’t sacrifice to God.
- I don’t want you to enter a relationship with lesser gods.
- 21 You can’t drink from the Master’s cup and from lesser gods’ cup.
- You can’t eat at the Master’s table and from lesser gods’ table.
- 22 Or do we want the Master to be jealous?—we’re not stronger than him.
Pagans don’t worship real gods, but
Anyway, what the Fundies are doing is claiming, first of all, that heretic Christians aren’t actually Christian—they’re pagan. And as pagans, the God they believe in and worship can’t possibly be the real God. It’s gotta be some other god—one of those lesser gods, like Paul and Sosthenes pointed out in 1 Corinthians. A demon. They’re worshiping a demon.
Yikes.
Now let’s get to where the scriptures indicate that belief is entirely wrong.
Remember the Samaritans?
When the Assyrian Empire dragged the city-dwellers of northern Israel into exile, and scattered them all over their empire, they did the very same thing to other conquered nations: They scattered those people into northern Israeli territory.
And they were heretic.
Well,
Jesus had many bones to pick with Pharisee ideas too. But when it came to the Samaritans, turns out our Lord actually agreed with the Pharisees: Samaritans are heretics. When the Samaritan at the well tried to engage him on the difference between Pharisees and Samaritans, Jesus said as much.
John 4.19-24 KWL - 19 The woman told Jesus, “Master, I see you’re a prophet.
- 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this hill.
- You say Jerusalem is the place where worship must be done.”
- 21 Jesus told the Samaritan, “Trust me, ma’am:
- The time’s come when you’ll worship the Father neither on this hill, nor Jerusalem.
- 22 You worship One whom you haven’t known.
- We worship One whom we know: Salvation comes from Jews.
- 23 But the time’s come—it’s now!—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth.
- The Father seeks such people to worship him.
- 24 God is spirit, and must be worshiped by his worshipers in spirit and truth.”
Now notice how Jesus described the Samaritans’ relationship with God: “You worship One whom you haven’t known.”
Nope, didn’t say they were worshiping “the Samaritan God.” Didn’t rebuke her for worshiping a fake god, different god, lesser god, or demon. Jesus simply said the Samaritans didn’t know God. They worshiped him, and presumed to know him, but they didn’t. The Jews did. Jesus absolutely did.
As for outright pagans, who don’t even claim to follow the God of Abraham, but figure they’re following the One God, the creator of the universe: The way Paul chose to engage with them was not to tell ’em they weren’t really following the One God. It was to tell ’em essentially the same thing Jesus did: You got the right God… but you don’t know him. We do.
Acts 17.22-23 KWL - 22 Standing in the middle of the Areopágos, Paul said,
- “Athenians, from everything I’ve seen, you’re very god- and demon-fearing.
- 23 For as I passed through your city and looked closely at your shrines,
- I found an altar on which was engraved, ‘To God-Not-Known.’
- So you worship him!… ignorantly. Well, I’ll proclaim him to you.”
Followed by Paul’s description of who God is, and how he sent us Jesus.
Not, as various
Which seems an utter waste of time when it turns out these folks aren’t revering a false god: It is the real God. It’s just they don’t know him. That’s why they’re so very wrong about him.
Now yeah, these apologists like to come back at me with, “When the Hebrews
What apologists and
Now let’s get to Allah.
Allah is the Arabic word for God. That’s the word Arabic-speaking Christians use for God in church, same as when Aramaic-speaking Christians use Elah, and Hebrew-speaking Christians use Eloah. (Notice how similar those words sound? Similar languages.)
Muslims don’t use any special personal name for God, like Jews and Christians do when we refer to
So Muslims believe in God. (Can’t be Muslim if you don’t!) But while we Christians primarily define God as the Father of Jesus, Muslims primarily define God as the one who sent ’em Muhammad to explain God… and to supersede Jesus as the last of his prophets. And to “correct” various things the Muslims are pretty sure Christians get wrong about God, and Jesus. They don’t believe Jesus died, fr’instance; they insist he switched places with Judas Iscariot on the cross, then went to heaven without dying, and that he’s someday coming back to rule the world. They believe Jesus was born of a virgin, but isn’t God’s son, ’cause God has no sons. They consider the New Testament to be scripture, but don’t read it and don’t trust it ’cause they think we Christians have altered it too much.
Believe it or not, Islam is technically a Christian heresy. But it’s had 13 centuries to evolve into something which looks very different from Christianity. Even so, we Christians still have a lot in common with Muslims. Far more than we have in common with every other religion but Judaism.
This being the case, do we share the same God? Fundamentalists will adamantly insist no we don’t: Their God isn’t the Father of Jesus, so he can’t be the same God.
But here’s the nutty thing. Ask a Fundie whether Christians and Jews share the same God. And just about all of them will say of course we do. Even though rabbinical Jews insist their God isn’t the Father of Jesus either. So why do Jews get a break, but Muslims don’t?
Reason would conclude that because Muslims recognize the God of Abraham, Ishmael, Jacob, Moses, David, Elijah, Jonah, Job, Zechariah, and Jesus, they clearly intend to identify Y
(I’ll bring up the fact there are certain antisemitic sects who claim Jews don’t have the same God as we. They claim Jews follow a false god, or demon, same as all the other religions these sects don’t like. These sects tend to be racist Christian cults, so I won’t bother to get into their beliefs any further.)
So, to finally answer the question, “Is Allah the same as God?” Yes he is. Ask any Arabic-speaking Christian. Archbishop Theodosius Atallah Hanna, fr’instance.
This meme’s been floating round the internet for a while.
But despite Allah being God, do Muslims know God? No. Because the only way to know God is through Jesus, and not through defective portrait of Jesus which Muslims were raised with. They still have yet to be introduced to Jesus. That, we gotta work on.
And I expect we’ll get a lot farther once we acknowledge, same as Jesus with the Samaritans and Paul with the Athenians, that we share the same God.
