Mk 13.17-20,
Mt 24.19-22,
Lk 21.23-24.
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But it’s not. And if you don’t believe me, ’cause your churches have been really successful at convincing you otherwise, I recommend you read today’s Luke passage more than once. Really read it. Let it sink in.
Mark 13.17-20 KWL - 17 “Woe to those who have babies in the womb,
- and those who are nursing, in these days!
- 18 Pray lest it happen in the rainy season.
- 19 For these days will be tribulation.
- Unlike what’s happened to what God creates,
- from the first creature until now,
- it may never yet be this bad.
- 20 If the Lord doesn’t shorten the days,
- not all flesh will survive—
- but because of the chosen whom he selected,
- he will shorten the days.”
Matthew 24.19-22 KWL - 19 “Woe to those who have babies in the womb,
- and those who are nursing, in these days!
- 20 Pray lest your flight happen in the rainy season,
- nor on Sabbath.
- 21 For then will be great tribulation.
- Unlike what’s happened
- from the beginning of the world until now,
- it may never be this bad.
- 22 If these days aren’t shortened,
- not all flesh will survive.
- Because of the chosen,
- these days will be shortened.”
Luke 21.23-24 KWL - 23 “Woe to those who have babies in the womb,
- and those who are nursing, in these days!
- It’ll be great calamity in the land,
- and wrath upon the people.
- 24 They will fall by the machete’s blade,
- and be put into captivity in every nation.
- Jerusalem will be trampled by gentiles
- until the gentile era might be full.”
’Cause according to
Even though Jesus is obviously talking about the events of the year 70.
Well… it’s obvious to people who know the history of
Luke 21.23 ESV - “Alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! For there will be great distress upon the earth and wrath against this people.”
True,
Or, bluntly, isn’t.
Worse than it’s ever been.
Most of the reason people presume Jesus is speaking of our future, is because Jesus describes this tribulation thisaway: “Unlike what’s happened from the beginning of the world until now, it may never be this bad.”
That, and various translators try to make it sound like Jesus is talking about the worst tribulation in all history. Not just from creation to the year 33; everything, from creation till the L
Matthew 24.21 KJV - For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
But “no, nor ever shall be” is a poor translation of
But Jesus also doesn’t say it’ll never get this bad again. And all of us are quite aware—if not from history classes then from war movies—that the deadliest war in human history was World War 2, filled with atrocities on both sides. (If you’re thinking, “Wait, what? What atrocities did the Allies commit?” you’re forgetting the Soviets: You want some nightmare fuel, look up what they did to the Germans in revenge. But maybe you shouldn’t.)
Those who figure Jesus is speaking of a tribulation worse than “ever shall be,” figure whatever he means, it’s gotta be worse than WW2. Thing is, in many ways the Roman-Jewish War was actually worse than WW2. The Romans killed 2 million Judeans during a time when there were maybe 4 million Jews on earth. Some historians estimate more, some less, but it’s not inaccurate to say that’s about half of ’em. But they didn’t gas the Judeans; they starved them to death under siege, burned them, speared them, and crucified them. They didn’t quietly, secretly try to wipe them out; they publicly wanted to terrify the world with what they did to their enemies, lest anyone else think they could defy Rome. The Romans meant it to be the worst suffering possible. Arguably they succeeded.
But people don’t know this history, or figure WW2 is definitely worse. The deaths of 35 to 85 million people is certainly more than 2 million. The suffering of German and Polish Jews is depicted in way more movies. And again, futurists insist the Olivet Discourse is really about us, and therefore our suffering under the Beast is gonna be the worst ever. Worse than first-century Judeans, worse than 20th-century Jews; worse than anything. We’d better get prepared for the worst, and fill our End Times bunkers with supplies and guns. Or we’d better see how long we can delay the worst, and vote for
Fear regularly distorts the interpretation of this passage, gets Christians to ignore the most obvious interpretation of Jesus’s words… and gets ’em to fixate on a coming war which will only happen if they vote for nationalists. Like they’re doing. Because they don’t learn from history.
So if history repeats itself—as it will when people foolishly try it again, expecting different results in their favor—it’ll be because of good old-fashioned human depravity. Not because Jesus is speaking of our day. He’s not.
Woe to new mothers; pray it’s not raining.
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And if you’re pregnant or have small children, it’s gonna particularly suck. Because you have to run for your life with them, and they’re only gonna slow you down.
Throughout Christian history, people have unfortunately used this statement of Jesus’s to justify not having kids. After all, if the End is coming, and the Beast’s minions are coming for us, kids are gonna get us exposed or caught. A baby will cry just as we’re hiding from the storm troopers. (No, not the Star Wars guys; those guys can’t shoot. Think of the World War 2 Sturmtruppen.) Then we’ll get caught and shot, or taken to the guillotine; nevermind the fact in every single one of these End Times scenarios, Jesus is gonna resurrect us when he comes back in a few years. Every Christian death will be temporary, not tragic.
Jesus likewise told ’em to pray the disaster wouldn’t befall them in
The L
But as it continues in Luke: The Romans would invade, stab many to death, and drag the rest into captivity in other nations. Now when you look at other End Times prognosticators’ timelines, you don’t see these events included. There’s nothing about future Christians getting dragged into captivity in other countries. Very little about Jerusalem getting trampled by gentiles; most of the time they imagine Jerusalem manages to hold out against the Beast during the battle of Armageddon. Some theorize there’ll be a second coming of Moses, and Israelis will evacuate Jerusalem and go hide out in Jordan with him, and God’ll defend them with heavenly force fields, and feed them manna. No I’m not kidding—but it’s a massive stretch to pull that idea from the bible, and the Luke passage doesn’t support it at all. Because nobody’s hiding out in Jordan; they’re “put into captivity in every nation.”
Meh. Like I said, read the Luke passage till it sinks in.