Throughout the bible it’s taken for granted that God has every right to judge humanity for
For that matter, as spelled out in God’s
And
To pagans, that’s not the behavior of a loving God. A loving God would never. He’d bail us out of all our problems and clean up all our messes. He’d never
Or he would… but they’d have to really be evildoers. Like murderous dictators and their soldiers. He’d strategically smite them. But the “collateral damage,” as our militaries call it, of civilians who lived near by, or innocent family members who somehow weren’t actively or quietly supporting them in their evildoing: God would somehow spare them. He’s God; he could figure out how to target them precisely, and spare innocents… and then somehow make sure those “innocents” never get radicalized against God and his people for taking away their loved ones.
As for nontheists, they insist there is no God judging humanity or mitigating evil. That’s just people murdering other people same as always, and using God to justify ourselves. The bible is merely a book of myths; Israelis conquered their neighbors, then inserted God into their stories and claimed it was all his idea. Then Jesus showed up centuries later and said no,
Okay. There are gonna be various pagans and nontheists who come at this issue from other directions, but I think I’ve laid out the general idea here: The scriptures reveal God as someone who represses or stops evil, and doesn’t rule out destruction and death and war as ways of doing so. And the skeptics argue he can’t do it these ways, for that’d make him evil. Captain America can shoot bad guys and remain noble and virtuous and good… but God can’t.
Okay, so how would they stop a bad guy?
Whenever I’ve talked
But I was curious to know what alternatives they had in mind. Okay, if God isn’t allowed to get handsy when he fights evil, what is he allowed to do? How’s he gonna stop a terrorist with a bomb vest without killing the terrorist?
“Well…” is a really common answer I’ve been given, “he’d give that guy a change of heart.”
Oh, so God would take away the evildoer’s free will and reprogram him to be good. Or at least sorry for being evil.
If God’s almighty—and most of us who believe in God are pretty sure he is—he should be able to flip anyone’s “evil” switch from on to off. If these people were God,
Well… the easiest thing only if God doesn’t care about
But he will show us he’s worth loving. He does try to change our minds. He wants us
Jesus graciously appeared to Paul of Tarsus to convince him to quit persecuting Christians and follow him. Didn’t force Paul to quit; Paul could’ve defied the vision he saw, and kept stubbornly persecuting Christians regardless. He chose not to.
Now when Jesus flipped Paul, note he didn’t invade his mind and instantly transform him from
Unrepentant sinners, not so much. Determined unrepentant sinners—especially ones who’ve convinced themselves God’s on their side, and if God himself says otherwise, they’d immediately say that can’t be God—not at all.
So yeah, skeptics would immediately reprogram every evildoer if they were God—even if it meant none of these evildoers could ever honestly, independently love God, due to their brainwashing. Even if it meant they broke the independent spark within every single one of those “reformed” evildoers. They’d figure if they were almighty, they could cleverly come up with some way in which these people weren’t actually robots now. They’d program them to not be robots. Yes I know that’s a paradox, but they figure the Almighty should be easily able to pull off such paradoxes.
I don’t know that he wants to. I believe he’d rather have free-will humans, and he’d rather have us repent. But if we won’t repent, sometimes there will be consequences. Ones he hates.
Ezekiel 33.11 KJV - Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord G
OD , I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Live, dangit! God’s offering you life and forgiveness. Take the deal!
But skeptics would much rather provide a third option, besides repentance or death: Brainwashing. And since God isn’t gonna turn evildoers into soulless automatons, somehow he’s the bad guy.
“Those people weren’t that bad. Killing them was way worse.”
The other objection I hear from pagans and nontheists about God’s acts of judgment, is that God shouldn’t be judging people for their evil deeds because their deeds aren’t all that evil.
Fr’instance when the L
Even in so-called
But what these skeptics object to, is the idea God sometimes chooses to kill evildoers. Not just expose them and let our governments prosecute them, although he does do that. But sometimes they just die.
Acts 5.3-6 KJV - 3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. 5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. 6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
They don’t usually drop dead like Ananias did… but yeah, sometimes they die, and suddenly every evil deed they were getting away with, comes out. And the people of their churches are horrified by the extent of their crimes. All the money they stole; all the children they molested; why didn’t God expose them sooner?
Yeah, they’ll gripe about God killing the dude, then they’ll turn round and gripe that God didn’t kill him sooner. Really, God can’t win with these people. Which is usually the real issue: God didn’t judge the way they would’ve judged. They’re entirely sure they’d have done it correctly.
Lastly, we have those skeptics who insist God shouldn’t kill at all—because he forbids us from killing,
Me, I figure God, as our maker, has every right to unmake what he’s made, for whatever reason he sees fit. If he wants to mercy-kill a sick person, as he does,
And as the only uncorrupted being in the universe, he’s the only one who can judge us rightly and fairly. It only looks wrong and unfair from our biased point of view, but
Heck, many Christians may as well just confess we don’t. I sometimes struggle with passages from Judges and Revelation, where it looks like there’s just an orgy of indiscriminate destruction going on, and the prophets and apostles kinda make it sound like God’s happy about it—even though I know he’s not, like he told Ezekiel. The biblical authors’ personal senses of vengeance and wrath were kinda leaking into the text, because they were pleased that God smote their enemies. God’s attitude is way different. He doesn’t want anyone to perish, but repent.
Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword as was said three thousand years ago so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.” Second Inaugural