John 8.39-42.
You recall
Y’know how certain Christians will give knee-jerk responses when you ask ’em questions? I once taught a seventh-grade bible class in which I was trying to teach the kids about atonement, and at one point I asked the kids, “So what saves us?” and their automatic, brain-bypassed response was, “Jesus saves us.” Yes yes Jesus saves us, but I wanted ’em to be more specific. And we kinda see this when Jesus refers to the Father… and the Judeans immediately respond with, “Oh, Abraham’s our father.” Yes, God’s their Father too; they acknowledge that in a few verses,
John 8.39-42 KWL 39 In reply the Judeans tell him, “Our father is Abraham.”- Jesus tells them, “If you’re² Abraham’s children,
- you² should be doing Abraham’s works.
40 Now you² seek to kill me,- a man who tells you² the truth I hear from God.
- Abraham didn’t do this.
41 You² do the work of your² real father.”{So} the Judeans tell him,- “We weren’t fathered by unchastity.
- We have one Father, God.”
42 Jesus tells them, “If God is your² Father,- you² would show me love,
- for I come from God
- and I’m right here.
- For I never came here by myself;
- but by that person who sends me.”
Now, don’t get confused. None of these people are actually talking about genealogy. They’re talking about spiritual parents. Abraham is the biological ancestor of the Ishmaelites (Arabia), the Isaacites (Israel; and Edom, which Israel had absorbed in the first century
Now if Abraham were their spiritual father—if God were recognized as their heavenly Father—they’d act like these spiritual fathers. Right? You’d see faith in ’em. You’d see love. You’d see an entirely different attitude towards Jesus than we see in the scriptures. Heck, you’d see an entirely different attitude towards Jesus than we see among
If you ever wondered why the Judeans wanted Jesus dead, this is one of many reasons.
Their real father.
There’s this one Jesus movie where Jesus mutters, “Why can’t you understand what I say?”
’Cause we see it in verse 40, with Jesus’s reference to their real father. “Real” isn’t in the text, but Jesus states in verse 39 if Abraham were truly their (spiritual) father, they’d do as he does; in verse 40 he points out they don’t. They seek to kill him; Abraham would never. They’re not doing as Abraham would, but they are doing as their (spiritual) father would, and this father ain’t Abraham.
This point didn’t go over the Judeans’ heads. They were fully aware Jesus was telling them, “Abraham’s not your father.” They came back with he is so their father: “We weren’t fathered by unchastity.”
Many commentators rightly recognize this is also a not-so-subtle jab at Jesus—because his parents weren’t wed when he was born.
What, the Judeans knew this story? Of course they did. Once Jesus showed up in Jerusalem, teaching and performing miracles and
But in investigating Jesus’s family, they of course found out he’d been born before his parents properly moved in together. (No wedding ceremonies back then; the man simply went to the woman’s house, and took her and her stuff to his house. Then they partied for about a week.) Thanks to in-vitro fertilization, virgins can now conceive and bear children, but back then this wasn’t a thing… so Israelis presumed Joseph and Mary simply couldn’t wait till she was out of
John doesn’t tell us whether Jesus paused to object to the slander, and knowing Jesus he probably let it slide so he could focus on his more important point.
Again: If Abraham were truly their spiritual father, if the L
When things in one’s religion get flipped a full 180 degrees away from the direction God wants ’em to go, you gotta ask yourself: How did they manage to get it 100 percent wrong? What being is notorious for trying to steer people in the exact opposite direction through lies and trickery? Which being is really their spiritual father? You don’t need
Whenever you see present-day Christians loudly object when fellow Christians actually put
If God is our Father, we should see his character in our lives. We should
Abraham never acted this way,