I’ve posted before about
Not merely allowed it to happen, even though he could totally intervene if he wants, ’cause he’s almighty and unlimited.
Calvinists call this “the doctrine of sovereignty”—
So since I dare to say the “doctrine of sovereignty” is fatalistic rubbish which comes more from Platonism than the scriptures, certain Calvinists are convinced I’m heretic. Or, again, not even Christian.
One of ’em put it to me thisaway recently: “I trust God. You don’t.”
No, you trust your doctrine. Which isn’t God. Although you might not recognize the difference. There is one, y’know.
The purpose of doctrine.
The Calvinist who accused me of not trusting God, has confused his doctrine with God. To him, God’s defined by Christian doctrines. He’s not; not at all. God defines himself.
Christian doctrines are our attempt to understand God, based on how we understand the scriptures. Hopefully we understand ’em correctly! But certain doctrines do not, and the Calvinist doctrine of sovereignty is an obvious example. It tries to prove God is deterministic through carefully cherry-picked
The scriptures state God sometimes changes his mind. Want me to quote ’em? Sure; why not. Many Calvinists are big fans of the English Standard Version, so I’ll use that translation.
Exodus 32.14 ESV - And the L
ORD relented from the disaster that he had spoken of bringing on his people.
Namely the disaster of wiping out the idolatrous Hebrews and turning Moses and his descendants into his chosen people instead.
More examples? No problem.
2 Samuel 24.16 ESV - And when the angel stretched out his hand toward Jerusalem to destroy it, the L
ORD relented from the calamity and said to the angel who was working destruction among the people, “It is enough; now stay your hand.” And the angel of the LORD was by the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite. 1 Chronicles 21.15 ESV - And God sent the angel to Jerusalem to destroy it, but as he was about to destroy it, the L
ORD saw, and he relented from the calamity. And he said to the angel who was working destruction, “It is enough; now stay your hand.” And the angel of the LORD was standing by the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite. Psalm 106.45 ESV - For their sake he remembered his covenant,
- and relented according to the abundance of his steadfast love.
Jeremiah 18.8 ESV - “…and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I intended to do to it.”
Jeremiah 26.13 ESV - “Now therefore mend your ways and your deeds, and obey the voice of the LORD your God, and the L
ORD will relent of the disaster that he has pronounced against you.” Jeremiah 26.19 ESV - “Did Hezekiah king of Judah and all Judah put him to death? Did he not fear the LORD and entreat the favor of the L
ORD , and did not the LORD relent of the disaster that he had pronounced against them? But we are about to bring great disaster upon ourselves.” Jeremiah 42.10 ESV - “If you will remain in this land, then I will build you up and not pull you down; I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I relent of the disaster that I did to you.”
Joel 2.13 ESV - …and rend your hearts and not your garments.”
- Return to the L
ORD your God, - for he is gracious and merciful,
- slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love;
- and he relents over disaster.
Amos 7.3 ESV - The L
ORD relented concerning this: - “It shall not be,” said the L
ORD . Amos 7.6 ESV - The L
ORD relented concerning this: - “This also shall not be,” said the Lord G
OD . Jonah 3.10 ESV - When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, God relented of the disaster that he had said he would do to them, and he did not do it.
That’s certainly not every case of God deciding he wasn’t gonna do as he originally said he would. I just did a really basic word-search of “relent.” You can dig further and find more examples; I certainly recall a few off the top of my head. God’s character doesn’t change, but God’s mind certainly can. Moses is far from the only guy to talk God out of things.
I trust that God is so almighty, he doesn’t need to micromanage the universe down to the very last string in order to get his way. I trust that God is so almighty, he doesn’t need to be “sovereign” in the way Calvinists imagine him to be (really,
I admit I’d be more apt to, if it were an ancient doctrine dating back to the ancient Christians. But it’s not. The ancients believed all sorts of things about sovereignty. Some did believe God determines everything in the universe. But most of ’em didn’t, because they read their bibles. They knew Abraham, Moses, David, Hezekiah, Ezekiel, Amos, and various repentant petitioners were able to get God to switch plans.
The Calvinist “doctrine of sovereignty” can’t stand up to basic scrutiny, so of course I don’t trust it. Don’t trust Calvinists who are willing to bend both bible and reason to defend it. But God?—yes of course I trust God.
And there are lots of other doctrines, pitched by lots of other Christians, which I don’t trust either. They don’t always call them doctrines; often they prefer
Good doctrine stands up to scrutiny.
Teachers of iffy and false doctrines would love it if we confused their “doctrines” and “principles” with make-or-break Christian teachings. Love it if we never questioned their teachings. Because after all, aren’t we supposedly people of faith? Doesn’t “faith” mean we set aside
And yes, there’s a place and time for us to stop doubting and trust God. Many places, many times. But these guys aren’t God, and their doctrines aren’t God either. We put our faith in God. These guys? Get real.
Humans, including fellow Christians, aren’t automatically trustworthy, and even the best of us make mistakes. That’s why the scriptures tell us
This Calvinist who expects me to swallow his doctrinal camel
Now other doctrines, like
When they do, feel free to adopt ’em as your personal beliefs. Go ahead and trust them. Bear in mind
But remember: It’s okay to scrutinize doctrines. It’s okay to doubt ’em for a while, and learn to trust them, same as you learn which Christians you can trust and which Christians you really shouldn’t. They’re not God. They only point to him.